May 28, 2021
Awarding the Star of Quality in March & April 2021
May 25, 2021
Expecting the unexpected – whether it comes in the form of snow, ice, tornadoes, hurricanes, wildfires, thick fog, or just a sudden gust of wind – being prepared for erratic weather has always been a part of Landstar’s safety message to owner-operators.
May 5, 2021
Hours on the road, time spent away from friends and family – it is no secret that being a professional truck driver can be a lonely profession. A pet, whether it be feline, canine or a feathered friend, can offer drivers companionship during isolated times, and according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), lead to a healthier, happier life.
April 25, 2021
When asked about becoming an entrepreneur, business owners often say that being their own boss and running a business is exciting and freeing, and above all, challenging. Entrepreneurship takes both skill and determination. For independent owner-operators like those leased to Landstar, it is not always the most obvious expertise that makes them successful.
April 12, 2021
Each month, deserving independent business capacity owners (BCOs) and independent freight agents earn Star of Quality awards which recognize extra efforts and individual dedication to service.
March 8, 2021
Low Department of Transportation (DOT) reportable accident rates earned Landstar Express America a fleet safety honor from the American Trucking Association (ATA) Safety Management Council and the Florida Trucking Association.
February 18, 2021
Landstar independent BCOs saved millions of dollars with LCAPP in 2020!
February 3, 2021
The Landstar Star of Quality Award is intended for members of the Landstar network who go above and beyond in representing the freight transportation industry.
January 20, 2021
Landstar BCO Steve Wheeler, who was at the end of the alphabet, watched with anticipation as the first three finalists selected their boxes when prompted during the virtual event.
January 19, 2021
The outstanding efforts made by these professional men and women during November and December 2020, earned them a Landstar Star of Quality Award.
January 15, 2021
Landstar BCOs David Johnson and Lloyd Tubbs snapped photos of their trucks upon arrival at the Alaskan border. The BCOs had just finished a 10-day and 4,400 mile transport from the southeast corner of the “lower 48” to Fairbanks, Alaska.
January 5, 2021
Landstar Million Mile Safe Driver and Roadstar® Bobby Jordan has placed a very special decal on the driver side door of his new Landstar blue Freightliner® Cascadia® 126 – a small, but conspicuous, housefly.
December 22, 2020
As one of the highest honors for Landstar business capacity owners (BCOs), the Roadstar® award is reserved for the independent owner-operators considered to be exceptional at customer service and, productive and profitable in all aspects of operating his or her business. We asked members of the Roadstar Class of 2019 to share their strategies for dealing with shifts in business and the economy.
December 21, 2020
Entrepreneurs around the world have been faced with a challenging business environment during the coronavirus pandemic. Despite the challenges, many Landstar independent agencies and owner-operators saw 2020 as an opportunity to adjust their businesses for continued success.
November 20, 2020
The outstanding efforts made by these professional men and women during September and October 2020, earned them a Landstar Star of Quality Award.
November 16, 2020
The annual fuel rebate savings for independent business capacity owners (BCOs) through the Landstar Contractor’s Advantage Purchasing Program (LCAPP) is at $54,956,293 and counting!
October 20, 2020
Watch as 2020 Deliver to Win Truck Giveaway Winner Steve Wheeler is wowed when he sees his new Freightliner® Cascadia® 126 for the first time!
October 15, 2020
The new facility includes classrooms, a conference room and several convenient amenities for owner-operators leased to Landstar, such as a business center with free Wi-Fi, laundry, showers and breakrooms.
September 29, 2020
As trade at the United States-Mexico border continues to expand, so do the opportunities available in the Landstar network.
September 24, 2020
The outstanding efforts made by these professional men and women during July and August 2020, earned them a Landstar Star of Quality Award.
September 23, 2020
Landstar business capacity owners (BCOs) have a reputation for their entrepreneurial spirit, dedication to safe driving and professionalism. When an owner-operator becomes a Landstar BCO, they are given the support, tools and resources needed to nourish their independent businesses and keep them on the road to success.
September 21, 2020
Landstar independent owner-operator Steve Wheeler of Greenville, North Carolina, won a 2020 Freightliner® Cascadia® 126 in the annual giveaway on Sept. 18, 2020.
September 18, 2020
See who won a new Freightliner® Cascadia® 126 from Landstar in the 2020 Deliver to Win Truck Giveaway held virtually via Zoom video conferencing on Friday Sept. 18.
September 13, 2020
From Sept. 13 -19, Landstar has planned a virtual celebration for its nearly 10,000 independent business capacity owners (BCOs), the term used for independent owner-operators exclusively leased to Landstar.
August 27, 2020
Landstar System, Inc. has announced the date of the 2020 Landstar Deliver to Win Truck Giveaway. The annual giveaway, for which all of the nearly 10,000 Landstar owner-operators are automatically entered, will take place virtually via Zoom video conferencing on Friday, Sept. 18, 2020.
August 7, 2020
“We live in a beautiful country, and trucking is a great way to see it.” Those words might sound like a recruiting pitch to some, and in a way, they are. They’re the heartfelt advice of Debra LaBree.
July 28, 2020
The outstanding efforts made by these professional men and women during May and June 2020, earned them a Landstar Star of Quality Award.
July 24, 2020
Landstar Million Mile Safe Driver and Roadstar® Bobby Jordan and his wife Miche are headed home to Soso, Mississippi, with Bobby’s new Freightliner® Cascadia® 126!
July 10, 2020
Landstar Million Mile Safe Driver and Roadstar® Bobby Jordan of Soso, Mississippi, was the lucky winner of a 2020 Freightliner® Cascadia® 126.
July 7, 2020
To reward Landstar’s safest owner-operators, the company gives away a new truck each year in the annual All-Star Truck Giveaway.
July 6, 2020
This year Landstar is celebrating 143 business capacity owners (BCOs) for their safety records and professionalism behind the wheel.
June 17, 2020
For the first time ever, the truck giveaway will take place virtually via Zoom video conferencing. This unique event is scheduled for Wednesday, July 8, and is sponsored by Pilot Flying J.
May 26, 2020
Each year, the SC&RA selects one professional driver from a SC&RA member company to receive the Million Miler Safety award. In addition to the Million Miler Safety Award, Landstar Transportation Logistics Inc. was recognized with the SC&RA 2020 Transportation Fleet Mileage award in the Over 100 Million Miles category.
May 13, 2020
Each month, deserving independent business capacity owners (BCOs) and independent agents earn Star of Quality awards, recognizing their extra efforts and individual dedication to service. The outstanding efforts made by these professional men and women during March and April 2020, earned them a Landstar Star of Quality Award.
May 8, 2020
Here’s a look at just a few tech advances designed to make life over-the-road a better experience for the professional truck owner-operator.
May 1, 2020
When Mark Fullbright recounts the events that earned him a Platinum Star of Quality Award from Landstar in December, he says he thinks about the many circumstances involved that put him in the right place at the right time to save a woman’s life.
April 6, 2020
The Landstar orientation center currently located in Jefferson, Georgia, will close Aug. 31. The new center in Carnesville is expected to open in September 2020.
April 3, 2020
Landstar has pledged its support of TAT and the organization’s goals of educating owner-operators about human trafficking since 2014.
April 1, 2020
The freedom and independence of Landstar’s business model are key to why so many small business owners succeed at “the big blue star.”
March 18, 2020
During this crisis, Landstar has temporarily authorized monies for any Landstar business capacity owner (BCO) who is diagnosed with COVID-19 and/or is required to be quarantined by a public health authority.
March 9, 2020
Each month, deserving business capacity owners (BCOs) and agents earn Landstar’s Star of Quality Award. The award, for members of the Landstar family who go above and beyond the call of duty, recognizes those extra efforts and dedication to service.
February 26, 2020
As John Sharlow explains it, he left his wallet at the Landstar U.S./Mexico Logistics Center in Laredo, Texas – but the BCO didn’t realize it was gone until hundreds of miles later, when he and his wife and team driver Tammy arrived in Houston for a delivery.
February 21, 2020
Landstar BCO Lloyd Tubbs doesn’t consider himself a hero, even after he earned a Landstar Platinum Star of Quality award. Tubbs explains, “I simply found myself in the right place to offer help.”
February 19, 2020
“If it weren’t for Landstar, we wouldn’t have the income to support Sabien’s dreams. Now, with him going to Utah, I’ll be able to find loads there and plan routes around Salt Lake City so that I can be a part of that experience and continue to run my business,” says Landstar owner-operator Scot Tinson.
February 14, 2020
Landstar Roadstar® Cece Logan was one of eight semi-finalists and one of four finalists selected randomly in the Landstar All-Star Truck Giveaway. The new truck, according to the Logans, guarantees them even more time on the road together and is another opportunity from Landstar that will help support their independent business.
January 23, 2020
The Landstar business capacity owner (BCO) who received financial assistance from the BCO Benevolence Fund says despite some hardships, 2018 gave him many, many reasons to be thankful.
January 14, 2020
Improving your health takes time, energy and access to the right food. A few Landstar business capacity owners (BCOs) are up for the challenge and on the road to beat the health odds against truckers.
January 13, 2020
Applications for the Landstar Scholarship Fund for the 2020-2021 academic school year are now available. The deadline to apply is March 2, 2020.
January 9, 2020
“Humble” is the best word to describe the 2019 recipient of the Landstar BCO Lifetime Achievement Award Art Trezise - a three million mile safe driver and Roadstar® honoree.
January 8, 2020
Each month, deserving business capacity owners (BCOs) and agents earn Landstar’s Star of Quality Award. The award, for members of the Landstar family who go above and beyond the call of duty, recognizes those extra efforts and an individual’s dedication to service.
November 14, 2019
When independent Landstar business capacity owners (BCOs) and agents go above and beyond the call of duty, their efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality award.
November 10, 2019
Landstar has always fully supported Michael Lemasters commitment to the military. This support was evident when he received mobilization orders to report to Fort Benning in Georgia.
November 4, 2019
The FMCSA ELD mandate deadline is quickly approaching. Landstar independent business capacity owners (BCOs) must complete the final upgrade to ELD software by Dec. 1.
November 1, 2019
The LandstarOne app gives BCOs access to their LCAPP® fuel savings, the Landstar Maximizer® and Available Loads apps, a quick link to LandstarOnline.com, and is a source for news and information from Landstar.
October 24, 2019
After witnessing a multi-vehicle accident on Texas Interstate 45 this summer, Landstar Business Capacity Owner Aaron ...
October 18, 2019
Four Landstar independent business capacity owners (BCOs) and a Landstar employee were recognized during the National Safety Council Congress & Expo.
October 3, 2019
With daily fuel searches exceeding 146,000, the mobile technology is making a positive cost-savings impact for Landstar independent business capacity owners (BCOs).
September 10, 2019
Each month, deserving business capacity owners (BCOs), operators and agents earn Landstar’s Star of Quality Award. The award, for members of the Landstar family who ago above and beyond the call of duty, recognizes those extra efforts.
September 5, 2019
Landstar appreciates the dedication of the country’s 3.5 million professional truck drivers every day of the year. During National Truck Driver Appreciation Week, we show some extra gratitude to Landstar owner-operators by providing free lunch.
September 4, 2019
Follow the signs to get your Landstar trailer inspected and get hooked up with prizes during the first-ever Landstar Inspection Connection! The event kicks off on Safety Thursday Sept. 19, and continues through Safety Thursday on Oct. 17.
July 23, 2019
Each month, deserving business capacity owners (BCOs), operators and agents earn Landstar’s Star of Quality Award. The award, for members of the Landstar family who go above and beyond the call of duty, recognizes those extra efforts.
July 16, 2019
Independent Landstar Million Mile Safe Driver and Roadstar® Cecilia Logan was the lucky winner of the 2020 Kenworth T680, featuring a fuel efficient PCCAR MX-13 engine, PACCAR transmission and PACCAR drive axles.
July 15, 2019
Landstar President and CEO Jim Gattoni called Art Trezise’s safety record “flawless.” Since leasing to Landstar in 1979, Trezise has driven more than 3.5 million miles at Landstar without incident.
July 15, 2019
The annual event recognizes outstanding safety records and professionalism behind the wheel. The Class of 2018 is one of the largest classes of Million Mile Safe Drivers inducted in Landstar history.
June 28, 2019
Landstar BCO Rosemberg Villarreal was one of five finalists, randomly selected from more than 217,000 entries during the 2019 Deliver to Win Truck Giveaway contest period.
June 25, 2019
On July 2, one lucky business capacity owner (BCO) will get the keys to a new 2020 Kenworth T680 during the annual BCO All-Star Celebration.
June 24, 2019
LandstarOne is a new mobile app from Landstar, created to give independent Landstar owner-operators one stop for all of their business needs.
June 20, 2019
Tire pressure monitoring systems (TPMS) are not a new trucking technology, however, recent advancements to existing TPMS technologies are making it easier for owner-operators to track tire pressures.
June 17, 2019
Announcing the April & May 2019 Landstar Star of Quality recipients. The award, for members of the Landstar family who ago above and beyond the call of duty, recognizes extra efforts and an individual’s dedication to service.
June 10, 2019
Introducing LandstarOne, a new mobile app from Landstar, created to give you one stop for your business needs.
May 22, 2019
The CDC notes plenty of reasons why living in a truck can make for an unhealthy lifestyle. How many of these six health tips do you follow?
April 16, 2019
The Landstar Star of Quality is awarded to Landstar agents, business capacity owners (BCOs) and operators who regularly go above and beyond the call of duty.
April 12, 2019
When she became an over-the-road team driver with her husband Del, LaBree says she never imagined her trucking career would take her down the path of advising or coaching other owner-operators.
March 27, 2019
Landstar has created a more formal approach to the support of its independent owner-operators and their success on the road.
March 15, 2019
The Landstar Star of Quality is awarded to Landstar agents, business capacity owners (BCOs) and operators who regularly go above and beyond the call of duty.
February 25, 2019
While the price of fuel may be out of your control, there are ways owner-operators can easily reduce fuel consumption.
February 7, 2019
Each month, deserving business capacity owners (BCOs), operators and agents earn Landstar’s Star of Quality Award. The award, for members of the Landstar family who ago above and beyond the call of duty, recognizes their extra efforts.
January 28, 2019
Landstar Business Capacity Owner (BCO) Rosemberg Villarreal of Grand Prairie, Texas, won a 2019 Peterbilt 579 UltraLoft, the first of two trucks Landstar will give away to its owner-operators in 2019.
January 23, 2019
Landstar million mile safe driver David Zelsdorf says something magical happened at the 2018 BCO All-Star Celebration in Savannah, Georgia.
January 14, 2019
The annual Deliver to Win Truck Giveaway sponsored by Pilot/Flying J will happen Thursday, Jan. 24, during Landstar’s BCO Appreciation Days event in Jacksonville, Florida.
December 11, 2018
As Landstar’s highest honor for business capacity owners (BCOs), the company’s term for independent owner-operators with exclusive lease agreements, Roadstar award winners are considered the most elite professional drivers.
December 7, 2018
The outstanding efforts by these professional men and women throughout October and November earned them a Star of Quality Award.
December 4, 2018
As the first generation of independent Landstar entrepreneurs tells it, what hasn’t wavered is Landstar’s commitment to its independent business owners.
November 20, 2018
In their 30s, this group of millennial business owners are eager for the future, to grow their businesses and the freedom to succeed with Landstar.
November 14, 2018
“Instead of spending more money to repair or modify my old truck, I realized if I bought a brand-new truck with better fuel economy, I would actually save money,” says Van Dyke.
November 8, 2018
Kevin Rutherford, radio host of Trucking Business & Beyond on SiriusXM / Road Dog Trucking, explains to independent owner-operators the importance of investing in new equipment.
October 29, 2018
In a world where the price of fuel is consistently trending upward and the average over-the-road truck gets roughly 6.5 miles per gallon (mpg), some owner-operators are going to great lengths to improve their fuel economy.
October 30, 2018
Each month deserving business capacity owners (BCOs), operators and agents earn Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
September 25, 2018
Landstar BCO Susan Coffer of Claremore, Oklahoma is driving a brand-new Kenworth T680 after winning the semi-truck in a random drawing held Sept. 12 in Rockford, Illinois.
September 21, 2018
Landstar’s Star of Quality Award is awarded to members of the Landstar family who have been recognized for going above and beyond the call of duty.
September 9, 2018
Each year during National Truck Driver Appreciation Week (NTDAW), industry professionals across America take time to honor the country’s 3.5 million professional truck drivers.
September 5, 2018
Landstar is giving away a big rig to one of its 10,000 independent owner-operators (business capacity owners or BCOs). The annual Deliver to Win Truck Giveaway powered by Comdata, will happen Wednesday, Sept. 12.
July 25, 2018
Landstar System, Inc. honored seven female owner-operators among Landstar’s best and safest during the 7th Annual Landstar BCO All-Star Celebration held earlier this month.
July 23, 2018
Each of the inductees has driven more than one million consecutive miles without a preventable accident, a distance that takes a truck operator approximately 10 years to travel.
July 18, 2018
Landstar Million Mile Safe Driver David Zelsdorf was the lucky winner of the 2019 Western Star 5700XE at the Landstar All-Star Truck Giveaway powered by Pilot/Flying J and Western Star.
July 11, 2018
Landstar’s new technology tool for business capacity owners (BCOs), the Landstar Maximizer® mobile app, is designed to help owner-operators find more revenue opportunities and keep their trucks loaded.
July 9, 2018
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
June 26, 2018
Come July, one lucky Landstar Million Mile business capacity owner (BCO) will drive home from the annual BCO All-Star Celebration in a new 2019 Western Star 5700XE.
June 13, 2018
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
May 10, 2018
Deserving business capacity owners (BCOs) and agents receive bronze, silver, gold or platinum lapel pins recognizing their dedication to the best in transportation services.
April 9, 2018
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
April 2, 2018
With full enforcement of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration's (FMCSA) ELD rule underway, avoid potential delays and know the hours of service (HOS) rules.
March 19, 2018
Landstar is launching the new look for the company’s extranet, LandstarOnline, to independent owner-operators leased to the company.
March 12, 2018
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
February 15, 2018
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
February 15, 2018
Landstar independent owner-operators save time and maximize revenue opportunities with the Landstar Maximizer™ mobile app, now available for Android or iPhone.
January 10, 2018
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
December 29, 2017
Landstar business capacity owner, Roadstar and Three Million Mile Safe Driver Conrad “Ray” Price says he was overwhelmed when he received the company’s BCO Lifetime Achievement Award.
December 27, 2017
The New Year rings in some new industry regulations to be aware of in 2018.
December 21, 2017
Gary Buchs was overwhelmed when he stood at the podium in March to accept the Owner-Operator of the Year award from the Truckload Carriers Association (TCA) and Overdrive magazine.
December 19, 2017
Penrod won the red-pearl 2017 Western Star 5700XE during the Landstar BCO All-Star Celebration held in July at the Gaylord Opryland Resort and Convention Center in Nashville, Tennessee.
December 18, 2017
Landstar’s fleet of independent owner-operators is 100 percent compliant with the federal mandate to switch from paper to electronic logs.
December 15, 2017
The expedite team drivers knew exactly what to do to get "truck show ready" for an inspection that covers every inch of a competition truck.
December 8, 2017
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
December 6, 2017
While the price of fuel may be out of your control, there are ways owner-operators can easily reduce fuel consumption.
November 28, 2017
By Dec.18 professional truck drivers who operate in North America will be required to log their hours of service (HOS) using an electronic logging device (ELD).
November 28, 2017
After Hurricanes Harvey and Irma hit the U.S., the urgent need for help was evident and members of the Landstar family stepped up to support those impacted.
November 15, 2017
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
November 9, 2017
Searching through thousands of loads to put together a multileg run takes time that could be better spent on the road, generating more revenue.
November 3, 2017
What do shippers need to know about the federal mandate on electronic logging devices (ELDs) before it takes effect Dec. 18?
November 1, 2017
Landstar owner-operator Ken Denzer has tried dieting to get his weight in check and that never seemed to work. So Denzer found a different way to put being overweight and unhealthy in his past.
October 18, 2017
Just 6 percent of drivers in the trucking industry are women and the industry goal is to double that percentage, according to the Women in Trucking (WIT) Association.
October 13, 2017
The Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance’s annual “Operation Safe Driver Week” begins this week of October 15-21, 2017. The goal is to improve the driving behavior of all drivers – whether operating a commercial or passenger vehicle.
October 11, 2017
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
October 9, 2017
The Roadstar distinction is awarded to Landstar owner-operators recognized for their outstanding safety records and professionalism behind the wheel.
September 9, 2017
We appreciate professional truck drivers all year, but during this year’s National Truck Driver Appreciation Week, from September 10-16, we’d like to show our gratitude to Landstar owner-operators by providing a free lunch.
July 26, 2017
Landstar’s brand new Available Loads app is coming soon to Android and iPhone.
July 14, 2017
Landstar gave away a brand new rig in the Landstar All-Star Truck Giveaway powered by Comdata and Western Star.
July 3, 2017
For the second time this year, Landstar is giving away a big rig to one of the more than 9,000 independent owner-operators leased to Landstar.
June 9, 2017
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
May 16, 2017
Good load securement is critical, not only because law enforcement will be keeping a close watch, but because the public is vulnerable if a load is improperly secured.
May 12, 2017
For the sixth consecutive year, Landstar is among the “Top 20 Fleets to Drive For” according to the latest survey conducted by Truckload Carriers Association (TCA) and CarriersEdge.
May 4, 2017
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
April 13, 2017
Deserving business capacity owners (BCOs) and agents receive bronze, silver, gold or platinum lapel pins recognizing their dedication to the best in transportation services.
March 16, 2017
When Hill arrived at Landstar headquarters in Jacksonville, Florida, he couldn’t wait to drive his new truck – and the galaxy silver 2017 Peterbilt 579 sat in the back lot waiting for its new owner.
March 16, 2017
Our thanks to the following Landstar owner operators and agents who are among the most elite in the freight transportation industry.
February 23, 2017
Our thanks to the following independent Landstar owner-operators and agents who are among the most elite in the freight transportation industry.
February 5, 2017
Landstar BCO Ralph Hall is driving a brand new Peterbilt 579 after winning the semi-truck in a random drawing held Jan. 26 in Jacksonville, Fla.
January 22, 2017
The contest will run from January 1, 2016 through December 31, 2016, and all entries must be received by January 15, 2017.
January 19, 2017
One lucky Landstar business capacity owner (BCO) will drive home from the 2017 Landstar BCO Appreciation Days in Jacksonville, Florida in a brand new 2017 Peterbilt 579.
January 9, 2017
When members of the Landstar family go above and beyond the call of duty, their extra efforts are recognized with Landstar’s Star of Quality Award.
January 9, 2017
When TravelCenters of America announced its 2016 Citizen Drivers of The Year, three Landstar BCOs received the life-changing news that they would be honored among eight total professional drivers.
January 4, 2017
Among the three is Landstar BCO Bill Ater, who not only matches the criteria for becoming a Citizen Driver, he is the very definition of an outstanding Landstar BCO, professional driver and model citizen.
November 14, 2016
Landstar BCO C.J. Moore and I have known each other – or at least known of each other – for 15 years, going back to when we were both coaches in our kids’ flag football league in south Jacksonville in the early 2000s.
February 27, 2015
More than 200 BCOs became certified with Truckers Against Trafficking (TAT) during Appreciation Days.
March 31, 2014
Human trafficking may seem like the subject of a Movie of the Week or a crime solving drama on television, but it is all too real. And it’s not necessarily in some far off land, where we can’t see it.
